A WORD ON YELLOWING AND REPAIRS
Yellowing means age and age means issues and it also means the owner left the machine out in the sun and did not even take care enough to cover it. Also, time, dust and moisture is not a friend to knitting machines. Repairs are an issue as it can add up quickly, for example, just replacing the 2 sponge bars can cost you about $100 with shipping and if you need to repair the machine it will run into the hundreds. With a yellowed machine 99.9% of the time you will have to replace at least the sponge bars.
I personally will NOT buy a machine that has yellowed as it makes me very nervous. BUT, I have been conned and received a knitting machine that had yellowed (when they have stated there is no yellowing) and they ALWAYS had other issues. I apply this rule to Accessories also. People will argue with me over this issue, but for me the issue is more about how the machine has been treated in addition to the fact that it has yellowed. You never know what you are getting with a used machine until you receive it, so I try to mitigate getting one in poor shape.
People will also argue that yellowing does not hurt the machine at all and it is a cosmetic issue. Yes and No. Cosmetically it looks like crap and yes you can use a concoction to take out the yellowing and bleach it to white again, that will ONLY make it look better. The plastic, actually any plastic, that is left out in the sun to bake and change color means that it has eroded. It makes the plastic very brittle and easily breaks. Can you imagine having to buy a new case for your "just bought" knitting machine because two weeks into using the machine it cracked? Especially the little plastic area at the bottom of the machine that you use to mount the machine to the knitting machine table or stand. Those are big issues and is another reason why I do not buy yellowed knitting machine or accessories. I am not talking about machines that come in the color yellow, I am talking about the beige-yellow color, you will know it when you see it.
Here is some information about what I have purchased machines for. I
found an SK890 and bought it for $900, with the Ribber; I bought my
SK860 for $400 and later the Ribber for an additional $350 and I also found another SR860 for $250 and a SK860 for $600, needless to say I bought the SR860 for $250; I bought my SK160 for
$350, so deals are out there on the internet, you just need to be
patient and scout around. All machines were in excellent condition and
only needed the sponge bars replaced and just a little cleaning. On the
other hand I bought an SK840 from a dealer for $800 and it needed $300 in repairs,
and an SK560 from a private individual for $400 and it needed heavy
repairs, I won't even tell you how much as I got ripped off. But I also bought a SK580 with ribber for $1,100 because it was like new and from someone I trusted so it was a clean machine, I do not think it was ever used as it still had the plastic protective cover on it.
Bottom line, whatever you buy, whether a Silver Reed, Studio, Empisal, Brother, Toyota , Passap or any knitting machine, use the Internet to your advantage. Find out about prices, get pictures, compare and then make an informed offer and don't forget about CRAIGSLIST, another source to find your knitting machine or to sell the one you have. ALWAYS expect to add about $200 in repairs, so consider that when making an offer.
MY ADVICE to someone NEW to MACHINE KNITTING
I would suggest that if you are not sure about a knitting machine, then purchase a "USED" Silver Reed/Studio LK140/LK150 Knitting Machine for about $200 - $300 or the Brother KX350 or KX400 Convertible Machine. The KX400 is a 4.5mm AND a 9mm machine. The Silver Reed has a Mid gauge LK150 (6.5mm) and the easiest gauge to learn on prior to deciding what you want when purchasing a full metal knitting machine. The Brothers I mentioned above are also a mix of plastic and metal and with the convertible you can try out a Standard size (4.5mm) AND a Bulky (9mm) gauge, the KX350 is a Standard (4.5mm) bed. They hold their value, they ship well hence damage in transit is not an issue, they are MUCH cheaper to ship next a full metal very heavy knitting machine bed and if and when you do upgrade to a full metal knitting bed, you will probably still keep this one around as most people do.
SIDE NOTE: PROTECTION FOR SELLERS
While it is true that Buyers can get scammed, it seems that Sellers are being scammed more and more on the Internet just like Buyers are. This is just a few things to keep in mind when selling items on the Internet or on Knitting Machine Yahoo Groups as a "Private Seller" and not a store.
More information about protection on the internet when selling and buying is in the section Internet Buying/Selling.
1. DVD’s, Software and Lessons on VHS: While PayPal is a great way to do transactions, Buyers can still rip you off by keeping these items for a period of time, as in weeks, probably copy them and then file a claim with PayPal when they are done. Even if the outcome is that they return the items for a refund, they are still getting something for nothing. This is especially true with DVD’s, Software and VHS Lesson Tapes. You can opt NOT to use PayPal as a means of payment, and have a check or money order just with these items. PayPal does not always see the whole picture and I know of people who have been ripped off with Buyers in this area.
2. Make sure to get the same info on the buyer and a LANDLINE Phone number. While it is no issue to ship to a PO Box you should get their home address, then you can file a complaint with their local Police Station for Internet Fraud and they will get a nock on their door.
3. For high cost items, say anything over $200, a phone call could not hurt just to feel the person out and if something feels amiss just decline to sell to them. Someone will buy your item for sale.
4. If you want to you can also keep an eye out on other yahoo groups to see who the problem children are, they are the same ones who complain all the time no matter which group. There are some mean and nasty people out there who just like to stir up trouble for something to do. But, be careful not to pay attention to rumors.
5. If you do get paid via PayPal, DO NOT Send the item until you have transferred the funds out of your PayPal account, which usually takes three days and you will get a notice once the money has been transferred into your checking or savings account.
6. Contact the Yahoo Group Moderator if you sell from a Yahoo Group Site as they almost always will go out of their way to help you.
Unfortunately, there is little recourse to go after a buyer who is trying to figure out a way to scam you, especially through PayPal so SELLERS need to be careful also these days.
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